Cross Examination of Pritam Singh and Kenneth Foo


Day 15 – Cross Examination of Pritam Singh
(1)        Pritam agreed there was a conflict of interest with the appointment of Loh/How. And admitted that their shareholding interests in FMSS had to be disclosed to all Town Councillors who did not know.
Pritam also admitted:
(a)        Loh/How’s shareholdings were not declared at the 4 Aug meeting
(b)        He did not know how many shares Loh/How owned in FMSS on 4 Aug
(c)        He did not know who else (other than Loh/How) owned FMSS shares on 4 Aug
            [Background: In reality, FMSS was 100% owned by employees of AHTC.]
Q:         Assume that the town councillors, or not all of them, knew that they were shareholders. That would have been a material thing to disclose?
            A:         On that assumption, yes.
Q:         Leaving aside that, it would have been relevant for the town councillors, again, on the premise that they did not know, to know that the managing agent was actually owned substantially by people who were going to be on this side of the fence, the secretary and the deputy secretary and the general manager, correct?
A:         The general manager and the secretary, yes.
Q:         And the deputy secretary? Wasn’t she deputy?
A:         At that point, yes.
Q:         Yes. And because that gives rise to a conflict of interest?
            Ownership on the one hand and share positions on the other?
A:         Yes.

(a)        No disclosure of Loh/How’s shareholdings at 4 Aug meeting
Q:         Thank you. Another matter which would have been relevant, and you’ve heard my questions to Mr Low and Ms Lim about the shareholding of Mr Loh and Ms How. There was no declaration of that either at the … 4 August 2011 or 2 August 2012 [meeting]?
            A:         Yes, you are right.

(c)        Did not know who else owned FMSS on 4 Aug
Q:         Right. And did you know who else owned the company?
A:         No, I did not. At that point, I did not.
(2)        Pritam admitted no independent verification was done before the cheques to the MA (FMSS) were signed. They relied on the MA to verify, and the payments were going to the MA. There was no independent verification.
[Background:  How and Loh (as FMSS directors) were issuing the invoices for FMSS to AHTC. How and Loh (as General Manager and Secretary of the TC) were also the ones who verified the work done on behalf of AHTC.]
Chairman/Vice-Chairman would rely on verification done by conflicted persons
Q:         Yes. And when you get those cheques, you would have to rely on the MA having done a proper job in verifying and calculating?
A:         That is correct.

No independent verification done
Q:         And so because of what I just described, the interests of the secretary and the deputy secretary and general manager both to the fact and the amounts that are paid to FMSS, was it ever discussed that there should be someone independent appointed to oversee this process so that it is not all done on both sides by the same people, excluding the chairman and vice-chairman of course?
A:         I do not believe so, but precisely for that reason, because we operated with the chairman or vice-chairman not being related to FMSS as being that insurance, if I can put it that way.

Chairman/Vice-Chairman aware that payments made to FMSS were going to How and Loh
Q:         Yes. And where invoices come from FMSS, then whoever is signing the cheques … would have known that whatever is paid to FMSS clearly would, if there’s a profit on the FMSS side, be to the benefit of the shareholders, yes?
A:         It follows, yes.




Day 15 – Cross Examination of Kenneth Foo
(1)        Kenneth Foo agreed that:
(a)        He did not know FMSS had been appointed, until the 4 Aug TC meeting
(b)        He did not think the TC had to approve the appointment of FMSS – instead, the item was for “information” and “clarification”.
(c)        He did not recall anyone asking questions on the appointment of FMSS, at the 4 Aug TC meeting.
            (a)        Did not know FMSS was appointed until 4 Aug
Q:         … Did anyone tell you that actually a new managing agent had been engaged? And I’m still on 3 August.
A:         No, not that I recall of.
Q:         Thank you. Would it be right that the first time you came to learn about a new managing agent was on 4 August?
A:         Yes, if I remember correctly.

(b)        Tabled at 4 Aug meeting for “information” and “clarification”
Q:         Did you understand that the town council’s approval was needed for FMSS to start work?
A:         No, I don’t think so. As I refer back to the earlier statement that I made, the authority was already delegated to Sylvia in June.
Q:         Right.
A:         So I believe that this is coming to us for our information to know who had been appointed to manage the town.
Q:        So it was an information item?
A:         Yes, I would think so.
A:         I think it’s for information and for clarification, if any.

(c)        Nobody asked questions on appointment of FMSS
            Court:   The question is whether you remember anyone else asking questions.
            A:         To the best of my memory, I don’t recall.

           

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